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Everything I've read said this is a bad idea.

HID gives off UV and can burn the bowl.
You won't have a clean cutoff, you'll have hotspots, blind people etc.
everything is from sly....Dont trust to everything you can read over the internet!

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Everything I've read said this is a bad idea.

I've read things like:
Halogen projectors are constructed differently from HID projectors.
HID gives off UV and can burn the bowl.
You won't have a clean cutoff, you'll have hotspots, blind people etc.

I really wanted to do this but decided against it after a ton of reading. What are your experiences with it?
I have had no issues with my previous vehicles. They both had projectors. 08 VW Passat and 03 Saab 9-3. I ordered a CANBUS kit from DDM tuning as well as the adapters off Amazon. I also ordered an extra set of dust covers from the dealer in case I decided to take them out again when my lease is up.
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Everything I've read said this is a bad idea.

I've read things like:
Halogen projectors are constructed differently from HID projectors.
HID gives off UV and can burn the bowl.
You won't have a clean cutoff, you'll have hotspots, blind people etc.

I really wanted to do this but decided against it after a ton of reading. What are your experiences with it?
If halogen projectors are constructed differently, I am not sure, I guess each car is different, but don't let that stop you from trying out a kit and seeing if you like it! I have put HID kits into regular halogen projectors before and not had an issue, granted they do not project as far as I might have liked but they still project and look great. prior to my Tucson I had a 2011 Mazda 3 with halogen projectors and put in an ebay HID kit and it lasted for the .5 years I owned the car before getting my Tucson and worked fine for me and projected well.

If there was any burning to the bowl I am unaware of that, looked the same the whole time i had it. Swapped back to the stock halogen bulbs when I sold it to the dealership and it still looked fine even then

As for cutoffs, I think you have those issues even with the stock HID housings, but I could be wrong. But either way an HID kit still projects better and still looks better than a basic halogen bulb and at $20 for a set why not try it out!

For hot spots, I didn't seem to have any issued with my Mazda 3 and the bulbs lasted me 5.5 years in there before I took them out. Blinding people would come from putting HID bulbs into non projector bowl housings and then they reflect all over the place.
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Everything I've read said this is a bad idea.

HID gives off UV and can burn the bowl.
You won't have a clean cutoff, you'll have hotspots, blind people etc.
everything is from sly....Dont trust to everything you can read over the internet!
Sly? Huh?

I came to that conclusion after reading many threads at HID planet or whatever the site is. They seem like a good source on the subject.
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Update: Some people have suggested that some factory installed ballasts don't consistently fire up after market bulbs even though the specifications are the same (wattage / voltage).

Recommendation is to only use OSRAM Xenarc. Trick is locating places to buy those from direct.

I talked to the shop where I got the bulbs from and they only sell their own products which they have designed and are manufactured in Japan. So next week they will get a new batch of D3S bulbs and I will try the 6000K ones again (3rd pair) and if those don't fire up consistently then I will put the factory OSRAM back in and get a refund on the aftermarket bulbs.
@UHATEIT (or any one else with aftermarket D3S HIDs) - have you had any intermittent issues with the bulbs not firing up?
Oh wow many that's insane! I don't drive a lot at night at least not yet, when daylight savings kicks in then I will be all the time. But in the 2 times I've driven at night with the bulbs in there the last couple weeks, I have not had any issues. I am still rocking the 5000K bulbs that they sent me by accident. Actually they are pretty white and have a nice bluish tint to the outside of them when on.

When I contacted the ebay seller about the mismarked box and bulbs, they advised that 5000K looks fairly similar to 6000K so they offered to send me a free set of 8000K, which arrive today in the mail when I get home. I have used 8000K before and the light output is not as good but they definitely look a nicer bluish color. I might just throw them in for craps n giggs to see how they look. But all in all my 5000K are brighter than I expected and I still get a bit of blue out of them. I have not had any issues with them not firing up or getting a warning light at all but again I have only driven 2 times at night and for short distances each time.

I am pretty sure my bulbs are from Japan or China initially, but the build quality looks just the same as my stock Osram ones. If I can take any pictures over the weekend to show how they look I will try to do it. It is hard to get a good color picture of bulbs with a cell phone as depending on the angle it will look a different color.

For example look at my 2 pics below. This is the same 5000K HID bulb, but depending on the angle of my cell phone the color looks different. One looks more white and one looks more blue. I would say that IN PERSON the stock 4300K looks more like the whiter picture and the 5000K looks more like the bluer picture. Granted my yellow fogs are on in the bluer picture and m,ay also be affecting the cell phone lense. BUT to give a good perspective of what it looks like in person that is how they look. Whiter in 4300K stock, and bluer in 5000K HID bulb
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Just bought a Canadian 2017 limited Tucson. They gave me a 2016 Limited for a week long testing period. Loved the ride and loved the headlights in the 2016. They were a HID low beam with a standard halogen high beam in the housing. I did notice one night when starting the car they did a auto level and center thingy. The car did not have any feature that i know of for the special turning headlights so i was confused as to why they did the auto level and center thing. The car had no options to turn off the DBL with a switch in the interior.

The 2017 I purchased a day ago has a different light setup inside of the housing. It looks like the same lens that the HID used on the 2016 I was test driving but it has 2 now. The booklet says LEDs are used. Going to have to take it out tonight to see how i like them. Not anything i can do about it but i hope the lows work as good as the 2016 ones i got accustom to.
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Just bought a Canadian 2017 limited Tucson. They gave me a 2016 Limited for a week long testing period. Loved the ride and loved the headlights in the 2016. They were a HID low beam with a standard halogen high beam in the housing. I did notice one night when starting the car they did a auto level and center thingy. The car did not have any feature that i know of for the special turning headlights so i was confused as to why they did the auto level and center thing. The car had no options to turn off the DBL with a switch in the interior.

The 2017 I purchased a day ago has a different light setup inside of the housing. It looks like the same lens that the HID used on the 2016 I was test driving but it has 2 now. The booklet says LEDs are used. Going to have to take it out tonight to see how i like them. Not anything i can do about it but i hope the lows work as good as the 2016 ones i got accustom to.
Sounds like you had the hid with dbl single beams and then your other one has the dual rings which are two LED lights instead. I love the look when looking straight at led they give that purplish hue that the hid doesn't. Definitely post your thoughts when you can on how you think they compare in brightness and color output. I think it's lame the highest end model which is the Ultimate gets hid while the dual rings led is not an option in the Ultimate edition in the USA.
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Just got back from my first night drive in the 2017. Have to say i like the LED lows better than the HID setup. The HID's on the 2016 were great as they were new to me but i did hate the harsh horizontal light line you get. What i mean by that is how the light just stopped abruptly and went to black. I know that's the point of lows so you don't blind others but the bouncing horizontal lighting effect was annoying seeing it elevate and dip when the car follows the road dips. The LED setup is more diffused on the horizontal level and way more pleasing when driving in town.

The highs on this 2017 seem to be visually the same in terms of housing and bulb construction but they seem to shoot way farther down the road and do a better job. That was one thing i hated driving to work at night was the highs on the 2016 did nothing in helping see further down the road but only seemed to provide a bit of a wash above the HID horizontal cutoff line. I can see a country mile now in this 2017 for some reason unlike before in the 2016. I do however don't care for the colour difference when using the high beams. The yellow mixed with the white looks strange to me.
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