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Old 12-20-2012, 07:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Help!!!!! Timing issue

Been at it for a week now...my crankshaft position sensor on my 2002 Sonata needed to be replace (via check engine code). Did everything as listed in the many posts I have read...but car is hard to start and runs rough.

Question:
Should the factory TDC marks on the cam pulleys be in between the teeth or on the teeth (mine are in between hence the problem realigning.)

As you will see hopefully by my pics that I have all the TDC marks on the bottom half of the car set correctly according to what I have read. But it the cam pulleys that are giving me issues. I have gone so far as removing the valve cover and using a dowel to bring piston #1 to TDC and (please correct me if I am wrong) I tried setting the cam arms to correspond with the piston (ie rockers for the cam when the piston is in compression are not pushing down on the valve springs) I also have the intake rockers the exact opposite of the exhaust...meaning if the rocker for the intake is point at 9 o'clock then exhaust is point at 3 o'clock.


pix #1 TDC mark intake cam
pix #2 TDC mark exhaust cam
pix #3 TDC on crankshaft
pix #4 TDC on oil pump



Please assist...

THANKS IN ADVANCE
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I believe there is more than one position that looks correct on the oil pump/balancer pulley... Check posts here and wait for others to reply also..
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Last picture does't look right.
Boss on block should be centered between two teeth, not lined up with the edge of one.
Nasty job timing belts.
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Ok, will place between the teeth....thanks for your replies.
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did that fix your issue?
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Had family over for a couple of days...was good to walk away from it and come back minus upsetting emotions...I will post the progress.
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Just finished 12th attempt and don't know what to do the car still idles rough. As instructed I set the marks in between the teeth (see pics below) and the oil pump and crankshaft were set in the same position as in my very first post. I may have to bite the bullet and put it in the shop $$$$$<<OUCH!!!!!
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did you find the plug hole on the front of the engine, and made sure that the oil balance shaft was correct?

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also, did you make sure the balancing belt was intact, and they were lined up with the corresponding timing marks?

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@ DEADZOMBIE what is the plug whole you speak of? And yes all marks on the small timing belt sprocket as well as the crankshaft and oil pump mark are all aligned...I did not take a pic of the small timing belt area because I did not touch any of that.
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