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Old 02-05-2013, 11:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 2008 Elantra with about 44k miles on it. I always get my oil changed at a dealership. Last time I went in, they told me that I need a new timing belt. I donít know a lot about cars but I know thatís early for a timing belt replacement. When I asked about this, I was told the recommendation was 60k miles or 4 years. I was then told that I didnít need to get it done right away but that I should get it done within the next 4-6 months. This seemed kind of fishy to me given that that would be exactly the time my car was 4 years old (I bought it at the end of Feb 2009).

Iím overdue for an oil change now and need to figure out what to do. I googled timing belt stuff a bit and now have a few questions:

1. Is it standard to check a timing belt on an oil change? I thought this part was something that was hard to get at so why would they be checking it so early?
2. Should I get a second opinion? If so should I go to a dealership or an independent garage? Should I tell them Iíve been told I need a timing belt or just see if they tell me I do?
3. Would something like this be covered by the warranty if I need it done so early? Could I get it done by the warranty if I do it before its technically 4 years old?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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They didn't 'check' anything they just looked at the year of the vehicle and hoped they could talk you into several hundred dollars worth of repairs. There's nothing TO check. A belt 30 seconds from failure can look just as pretty as a belt just installed. It would not be a warranty repair.
What does your owner's manual state?
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1. Is it standard to check a timing belt on an oil change? I thought this part was something that was hard to get at so why would they be checking it so early?
2. Should I get a second opinion? If so should I go to a dealership or an independent garage? Should I tell them I’ve been told I need a timing belt or just see if they tell me I do?
3. Would something like this be covered by the warranty if I need it done so early? Could I get it done by the warranty if I do it before its technically 4 years old?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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1. No, it is not standard procedure to check the timing belt at an oil change.
2. Yes. Personally, I'd find a good independent garage vs. the dealership.
3. No. A timing belt change is routine maintenance. Not covered by warr.


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From what I can gather, the consensus seems to be to change the HD Elantra timing belt around 80k miles. That makes sense. Most cars fall into that general range and that is a reasonable life expectancy for the belt. You can probably go longer than that, but the consequences of a broken belt are so high that you'd be foolish to do so. Check your owner's manual, though. I'd replace using the manual's mileage recommendation. The timing belt was just done on my 09 at 80,500.

Now, if a car gets old enough, technically there is a time interval for TB change. For instance, you buy a brand new car, you park it in a cave, you drag it out 30 years later with 15 miles on it. Yeah, you probably need to change the timing belt, because it's probably brittle from age, not miles. But the whole age thing is a lot more nebulous and hard to pin down than mileage. It's pretty easy to establish with a fair degree of certainty how much wear 80,000 miles puts on a timing belt. It's not so cut and dried how much a belt deteriorates with a few years of time and low miles.

Myself, I'd pay a LOT more attention to miles than time when deciding when to replace the TB. Now obviously, if you're talking a LONG time with low miles, you would consider it. My opinion, if I owned your car, I probably wouldn't do the TB yet. Just my opinion.

Anecdote: In the early 2000's I owned a pristine Audi 4000 quattro 5-cylinder. I left it running at a convenience store one day and ran inside to pay for some gas. When I came out less than a minute later, the car was not running. Crank crank crank no start. What the ****? Well, being an Audi of that vintage, it could be anything. Turns out the timing belt snapped at idle with no load on it, just sitting there at idle. It must have been ready to go at any second for a while. The car had somewhere north of 100k on it, and I bought it from the original owner. Probably the original belt from 1985-2002. So yeah, with a fair amount of miles, and being 15+ years old, it snapped. Fortunately, the A4kq had a non-interference engine, and no damage was done. Your Hyundai is different. Your belt snaps, you are toast. So the stakes are a lot higher, which leads me to anecdote #2...

Anecdote #2: My mother had a 1985 Honda Civic wagon with AWD. Cool little car in it's day. I harped on her to change the timing belt when the time came. She was low on money as a single parent, so she put it off. One day at around 130k miles, the belt snapped in a rough part of Philadelphia. She had to drive a hundred yards to get to a safe place to pull over, with the car running like dog doo. Needless to say, the engine was destroyed. Huge money to replace the engine, thousands of dollars. The lesson here is that if you don't have $500 to replace the timing belt on an interference engine, you SURE don't have $3000 to replace your entire engine. Find the $500.

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Well put ; good advice.
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I have 110k miles on my timing belt 08 elantra its a easy change if you have a jack some wood and day to kill. If not $250 for labor plus $100 ($150-200 if they get parts) for parts kit (belt, water pump and pully) out side of dealership
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hello every one .im not that good in English but i will try to explane ...
i have elantra 2008 1600cc and i have never changed the timing belt as i understand and from what i saw that my 2008 elantra have metal timing belt ,only rubber timing belt in some cars that need to be changed every certain km ,metal timing belt doesn't need to changed unless something really big happens
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It's possible that in Egypt you have a different motor with a metal timing chain, which should not need replacement for the life of the car. I'd double check to make sure.

Recommended belt replacement at 60k miles or 5 years. If it was my car, I'd be doing a timing belt inspection on OPs car. You can do the inspection by pulling off the TOP of the cover off and visually inspecting the belt, it's just a couple of bolts. You're looking for cracks or other signs the belt got hot and is deteriorating. The other thing to look at is tightness. Typically you want 5mm of deflection on the long run with 10kg of pressure. Ask me if you do not understand what I am talking about.

"I have 110k miles on my timing belt 08 elantra"... That's crazy, man. You're saying you've got 110k on a 5 year old belt??? You deserve to have your belt break. If the belt breaks, you'll need a new motor.
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I may have ask this question before on this forum. If so I am sorry. Didn't Hyundai [new Elantras included ] come out of the dark ages and started putting metal timing belts on their newer cars? If they didn't, why would they continue using rubber? Other car manufacturers [american] been using metal for years. Is it the foreign thing or just more money for Hyundai when you have to change rubber? I know Honda used to. I don't know if they do now. Example. Son has over 2000.000 on his 2007 Chevy pick up. No mention of changing from dealer that I know of.
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Manufactures started using rubber timing belts in the 70's for a number of reasons reasons: 1 because of the "silent shaft" concept... it's a lot quieter. 2 because there's less friction driving a rubber belt thus it's more efficient. 3 because the dealer can charge you big service fees... so dealers love it. Today people see it as a "reliability issue" because anybody who didn't change their timing belt and just kept driving usually got a nasty surprise eventually. Timing "chains" do break from time to time, incidentally.
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