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Old 10-16-2012, 10:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello,

I have a US 2009 Santa Fe Limited.

I would like to buy a remote start. I've called up the local best buy and a specialized alarm install shop.

I am being told that if I want a remote start I have to also purchase the kits that include an alarm system??

I was also told that the Santa Fe does not have a factory alarm system?? This is where I am confused, because when I press the lock button twice the horn beeps, is this not an alarm system?

The alarm store told me no cars come with factory alarm systems, and then I began to tell the person on the phone that my 2000 Grand Prix GTP did indeed come with a factory alarm system and I have tested it by kicking the tires and the alarm goes off... Additionally 10yrs ago I purchased a remote starter for my Grand Prix and they did not have to remove/disalble my factory alarm, the only thing they had to do was hide a key under the console because it was a chipped key (PK3).

So long story short, can somebody clear up my confusion??

1. Does the 2009 Santa Fe have an alarm?
2. Do i have to buy an alarm + remote start combo?
3. Do i need to provide a spare key?
4. What systems do people suggest? I don't need tons of bells and whistles, I just would like a remote start with good range, (and if i'm getting a alarm systems I would like to be able to unlock all 4 doors with 1 button press, pressing unlock twice drives me crazy)

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Old 10-16-2012, 01:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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To my knowledge there is no alarm. There is an immobilizer (on the Canadian models anyways)
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So long story short, can somebody clear up my confusion??
If you'll help clear up ours first, we may be able to assist. You specify your location only as "Aurora". I could (wrongly) assume you're talking about Aurora, Colorado, and it could instead turn out there there's an Aurora somewhere in Canada or elsewhere. The whole business about Canadian immobilizer keys will have a lot to do with how a remote start is set up, so ... where the heck are you???

As far as alarms, I was unaware that any vehicle produced in recent history did NOT have an alarm .. assuming you count the factory system that honks the horn when a door is opened improperly.
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Sorry for the confusion, there is indeed two Aurora's in the US.

Aurora, Illinois & Aurora Colorado.

I live in Aurora, Illinois (US).

So maybe my confusion is around the difference between an "Alarm" and a "immobilizer".

I always just assumed like on my grand prix if you kick the tires/break window/open door the horn would sound. But it sounds like that the Santa Fa does not have this advance security features and only has a immobilizer? I read on previous threads that people had to dis-arm that feature or when the remote start would start the car the alarm would trip?

So is this why I am being told that I want security + remote start I would need to by a combo package like the ones Viper sells? That would replace the factory (security?) system?

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To my knowledge there is no alarm. There is an immobilizer (on the Canadian models anyways)
Really? I have an alarm on mine.... Not that I've heard it activated as yet.. Thank god!
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Really? I have an alarm on mine.... Not that I've heard it activated as yet.. Thank god!
US and Canada get their Santa Fe's built in the US specifically to suit their markets so they may well be different to Santa Fe's built in Korea for the Rest of the World
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mnestroy - Just to clarify the difference between an alarm and an immobilizer.

Immobilizers generally have a chip in the key and when the engine is started the computer looks for the chip and if the chip is not found it shuts down the engine to prevent vehicle theft.

Alarms generally protect the entire vehicle and when armed will sound the horn or siren if a door\window is opened, glass is broken, etc (depending on the capabilities of the alarm)

Want a quick way to know if you have an alarm on your Santa Fe? Roll one window down and close all doors. Lock\arm the vehicle with your remote and wait about 30 seconds to make sure everything is set. Then reach in through the open window and open the door with the interior handle. If there is an alarm it will react to the open door by sounding the horn.
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Try this company Remote Car Starters - Vehicle Specific Systems - Car Alarms - Keyless Entry - DIY Remote Car Starters Car Alarms Keyless Entry Vehicle Specific

I have installed 3 of their "vehicle specific" systems. The instructions include wiring diagrams, locations and colors. Their tech support is great and the way they hook up their system, a coded key is not necessary. It can be bypassed by connecting two wires, at least it was that way with the two Nissans I installed the system in. My 2000 Toyota Camry doesn't have a coded key.

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