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Old 03-28-2012, 12:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've decided to start a new thread on this to let others weigh in on the timing belt question. My 08 Santa Fe just turned 62,500. It has been in for other service, ranging from regular oil changes to a check engine light coming on yesterday after a random cylinder misfire (P300 code - source of problem not found, everything seems once again normal after a stutter and the engine wanting to kill for a short distance). Each time it is serviced, the dealership stresses the manufacturer recommendation to replace the timing belt at 60k, which I'm now passed. I know timing belts are a gamble, but what's your opinion on this recommendation? Can it wait until 80K or is that too much of a gamble? Ever hear of or experience problems before 80K with timing belt? Thanks!
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Let me see here..

$500 preventitve belt replacement..... $4500+ engine after belt break and crash valves/pistons..

I want to say California says 90,000 ??
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I've decided to start a new thread on this to let others weigh in on the timing belt question. My 08 Santa Fe just turned 62,500. It has been in for other service, ranging from regular oil changes to a check engine light coming on yesterday after a random cylinder misfire (P300 code - source of problem not found, everything seems once again normal after a stutter and the engine wanting to kill for a short distance). Each time it is serviced, the dealership stresses the manufacturer recommendation to replace the timing belt at 60k, which I'm now passed. I know timing belts are a gamble, but what's your opinion on this recommendation? Can it wait until 80K or is that too much of a gamble? Ever hear of or experience problems before 80K with timing belt? Thanks!
Some repairs/things you can defer (like a clutch or an oil leak) - but a timing belt the consequence is a new engine and all the labour to put it in. You save nothing waiting for 10K (other than putting off your repair bill for a few months) but you risk thousands. I did mine in my Jetta at 50K just to be safe.

Get it done.
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As for the timing belt, it's a crap shoot. Their 60K spec is awful (although they're not alone at that number), and is demonstrably the shortest current interval of any manufacturer. It sure would be interesting to see the actual repair history for broken belts to know what the REAL likelihood of a failure before 80K or 100K would be.

(And to emphasize one word in particular from what I said in the other thread) ... "That said, you REALLY don't want a broken belt on this style of engine... it tends to run the valves and pistons into each other, and that's not nice."

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What isn't clear is why Hyundai and a few others have such a relatively (compared to other makes) short change interval for the belt. Then again, Hyundai isn't the only outfit calling for 60K replacements, but it's clear that other companies have engineered their systems such that they're comfortable with much longer intervals, often in the 90K range or so on interference engines like the Hyundai 2.7.
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60k miles isn't that short - it's 40k miles for GM Ecotec's !
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I just traded in my 04 Sonata, which had 126000 miles on it, and never had the timing belt replaced. To be honest, I never even thought about it though, or I would have had it done around the 80,000 mike mark
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Had one go on an old Excel even though I stuck to manufacturers recommendations. Was lucky in that I was idling at traffic lights and the motor just stopped. Was also lucky that 3 very lovely young ladies helped push me to the side of the road. I would always follow manufacturers recommendations as they should know the quality of their product.
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I've decided to start a new thread on this to let others weigh in on the timing belt question. My 08 Santa Fe just turned 62,500. It has been in for other service, ranging from regular oil changes to a check engine light coming on yesterday after a random cylinder misfire (P300 code - source of problem not found, everything seems once again normal after a stutter and the engine wanting to kill for a short distance). Each time it is serviced, the dealership stresses the manufacturer recommendation to replace the timing belt at 60k, which I'm now passed. I know timing belts are a gamble, but what's your opinion on this recommendation? Can it wait until 80K or is that too much of a gamble? Ever hear of or experience problems before 80K with timing belt? Thanks!
I looked all over trying to find real data on broken belts and had no luck getting any kind of reliable data. All kinds of anecdotal data by reading lots of threads, but didn't find any government/Hyundai data where you could extrapolate the risk of waiting. I had my 03 2.7 done at 82k miles and had them give me the old belt- I could see no wear and it looked like a new belt. If I had to do it again, I would have waited to 90k. Trying to figure out how much risk by waiting I think is impossible to do. I know of at least two or three individuals on this site that had original belts break around the 140k range or so- so that would be a level where you are taking some real risk.
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You can go broke. I owned a 2000 elantra and i kept hearing the service department telling me that "it had to be replaced at 60,000." I didn't have the money and figured if it tore up I would have another reason to buy a new one. A friend had his done at it was over $750 just to change it. I ended up driving it 150,000 miles and trading it on a 2007 elantra. I notice a lot of the items on the 2012 that were required service on earlier models are almost nonexsistant. I was told on my 2010 sonota that the transmission dad to be drained and the coolant flushed at 30,000 miles. The book calls for 60,000. It really comes down to money on a lot of the service requirements. If you got the money, pay and get it done. If not you take a chance. I am told that almost everyone drives under severe conditions and have to have the service done more often. I don't meet any of the things listed to require severe conditions so I do it when required as in the book for normal driving.
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I got mine changed at 120.000 km a couple months ago.
It was the second change, first was done at 60000.
The old belt was in excellent condition, I'm sure it would have gone for another 30-40 thousand km without a problem to say the least. Nevertheless, its not wise to take the risk. I always go by the book even though I'm out of warranty.
However, 500-700 dollars for the change???
I paid here in Greece 450 euros (abt 600 dollars) in total at the dealer for the 120 thousand big service (all filters, oil change, spark plugs, coolant flushing, timing belt, generator belt, brake fluid replacement, fuel filter etc).

There is a campaign for the last 2 years by Hyundai/Kia here for 40% discount on OEM parts, so that partially explains it.
500 usd just for the timing belt change is still tooo much.
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