[request] Santa Fe Workshop Manual Wanted

[canderson]

Thanks for that tip. I'll see how it works out next time I'm there. I'm not sure how they built that page with width issues that prevent scroll bar access (guess the original designers weren't exactly css wizards <g>), but having the frame separated should do it.

[MrVivona]

There are several sellers on eBay that have printed pdf versions of the Hyundai manuals from hmaservice and are selling them as downloads for less than $10. Just search eBay for "Santa Fe manual".

[canderson]

How many hundreds of PDF files are these? I will look, but have a hard time imagining that they are complete with the DTC information, schematics, TSBs and all the rest, some of which doesn't come in PDF form. The SVG stuff would take quite some time to convert.

FWIW, I'm surprised Hyundai hasn't taken exception to people selling that information.

[nemohm]

I have the manual on my flash drive - portable and readily available.
(not that I use it, but - in any case)

[johnaauld]

Originally Posted by canderson

How many hundreds of PDF files are these? I will look, but have a hard time imagining that they are complete with the DTC information, schematics, TSBs and all the rest, some of which doesn't come in PDF form. The SVG stuff would take quite some time to convert.

FWIW, I'm surprised Hyundai hasn't taken exception to people selling that information.

I wonder if he is referring to the owners manual.

[canderson]

No, I looked on eBay, and someone has compiled some of the data from what looks like hmaservice into pdf form. If you read the contents, it does NOT appear to be all of the data available on the web site.

[phillyguy]

Yeah HMAservice is incredibly poorly setup and organized. It would be really hard to get everything together from it. I'm not complaining since its free, just pointing out the assembling a "complete" collection of the data would be very time consuming.

[MrVivona]

To get PDF files of the factory service manual (not the owner's manual), go to hmaservice and select your car under "Shop". You will see the main categories of the service manual, i.e. General Information, Engine Mechanical System, etc. There are usually about 15 categories. To the right of each main heading is a printer icon. If you have a print-to-pdf driver installed (like PrimoPDF) you can print each category to create a PDF file. Each category prints as one long PDF file, so you end up with about 15 PDF files. This is generally the same thing people are selling on eBay. It is piracy, but since Hyundai provides the online manuals at no cost they aren't losing sales so they probably don't care. Or, Hyundai doesn't know about the eBay sellers.

For the other sections, ETM, DTC, TSB, etc. on hmaservice, you would have to print each page individually and would end up with hundreds of pages. Not practical to do. But, having the service manual as PDF files is a good thing to have on a tablet or smartphone so you have repair information handy should a problem happen on the road.

[Bill in VA]

Not sure which browsers will work with all OS. I have used Firefox on Ubuntu Linux with success, but it is better under Windows. I have found the following work on my PCs:

WinXP Pro-sp3 - IE7, IE8,
Vista Home-sp2 - IE7, IE8, IE9 (IE9 may need to use compatibility view)
Win7 Pro64-sp1 - IE9 (IE9 may need to use compatibility view)

Install the Adobe SVG viewer (works on all my Windows machines, even Win7 Pro64). Ignore obsolete warnings.

Make sure you have the MOST CURRENT Flash Player (v11.1.102.62). The prior Flash version was very buggy and locked up a lot on many Flash enabled web pages, as well as conflicted with various video drivers and other software. I have never had a conflict between any version of Flash and SVG on any machine.

If using a wide-screen monitor, just remember that this application was designed for 4:3 aspect ratio monitors and the images will be small if you are using a big resolution like 1920x1080 on 27". Fortunately, it does allow zoom, but as the images are small, they will pixillate. Setting resolution to 1024x768 will help, but it will distort on wide screen if viewing full screen.

MrVivona has it all right, great tip.

A good print to PDF is PDFCreator 1.2.3 available at pdfforge.org | The free PDF Creator and Converter. This version allows for using encryption on your documents. It is a great way to save entire discussion threads on forums like this as a PDF since it usually prints webpages in a true WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get).

[canderson]

Originally Posted by Bill in VA

I have never had a conflict between any version of Flash and SVG on any machine.

FWIW, I have had Flash in a Firefox environment attempt to intercept and handle *.svg data intended for the Adobe SVG viewer add-on... and not be successful in doing so. It was necessary to disable Flash in the Firefox addons in order to allow the SVG viewer to have its crack at them. However, that was a fair number of Flash versions ago. From what I have heard, Flash used to be able to correctly interpret SVG vector files, and some machines may still show Flash as the handler for them.