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Old 05-07-2008, 06:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello everybody I'm a new member. I have a 2006 Sonata V6 that I'd like to change the transmission fluid in. I'm a toyota guy, and this is my first Hyundai. I'm not stranger to the mechanical sides of cars. i've got a 1980 Toyota Celica w/ a 20/22R "hybrid" and Nitrous I"ve built from the ground up, and a 1992 Pickup w/ a rebuilt 22RE. All work done by, except for paint/body.

Now here is my dilema. This is the first car I've ever worked on that doesn't have a full frame and/or solid axle. Where do I jack up this car? Looking under the body I see a bunch of floor pan, definetely a unibody, but no real "good" looking jack mounts. I see for the front quite possibly behind the front tires there is a "flat pearch" which looks like I can put jack stands there, but what about the rear?

Its hard on this car to tell what is "thick frame" and what is floor pan because of the undercoating. I don't even see frame rails. I see two running down the side which could possibly be frame rails, but they dead end into the floor, so I'm really really doubting it.

My owners manual doesn't show the appropriate jack points, except if you use the dinky little tire jack included with the car.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Use the cross frame in the front or the lower suspension connection point for the spindles. You could also use a low angle set of ramps since you just want the body lift aspect to drain the trans fluid.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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See manual: Section 3, page 12.
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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yeah Tow the car because the car is a cheap unibody with no distinct place to safely place it on jack stands? You are a real comedian.

Low angle ramps are a good idea Robert, unfortunately I don't have any at the moment, but I could use a set for all of my cars! I have a set of big metal ramps meant for trucks, and a smaller set of plastic ones designed for cars, but on all the cars I've attempted to drive on the plastic ramps the valence will hit the ramps. Generally I just jack the cars up and slide the ramps underneath the front and back wheels to get it high off the ground if I am doing undercarriage repairs/maintenance.

I'm really astonished the owners manual does not depict a location to jack the car up for maintenance, this is the first owners manual I've ever came across that does not include this information.
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Not much to go on but better than nothing I guess.

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[b]Use the cross frame in the front or the lower suspension connection point for the spindles.
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You did see my first comments - right?
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Yes I seen your first post. Did you see my first post? I mentioned I've found a pretty good candidate for a jackstand in the front in my first post. The rear is whats giving me trouble. I found a diagram online, but it just shows the use of a scissor jack on the pinch weld, and no location for a standard 3 ton floor jack.
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I'm really astonished the owners manual does not depict a location to jack the car up for maintenance, this is the first owners manual I've ever came across that does not include this information.
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The factory shop manual DOES show the lift - or jack - points - immediately behind the front wheels and immediately in front of the rear wheels. If you get flat on the ground and look up, you will see large black dots which precisely mark the spots. Of course this only gets you halfway there as far as placement of jack stands.
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:43 AM   #9 (permalink)
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The best places are the ones listed in the manual.


Just be sure to use a lift block saddle that allows the pinch weld seam to drop down so you aren't lifting on the seam itself.


Also, any place the front/rear suspension mounts will be a part of the subframes. Those are usually the best places to jack from.
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Old 05-08-2008, 07:14 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I agree with Nova, about the subframes.
When I take mine up I jack at the owners manual recomended spots. I made wood blocks to put on my floor jack,then I slide the jackstands under an appropriate suspension mount, front or rear.
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