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Old 08-17-2010, 09:02 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Old 08-19-2010, 09:48 AM   #42 (permalink)
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I'm curious if anyone that has done this job on their own ran into any difficulties? I expected changing the rear shocks to be easy, but I ran into a snag getting the old shocks off. I removed the nut holding the lower side of the shock and the two bolts holding the upper side, but I could not get the lower side to slide off the bolt. When I tried to move it all that would happen is the bushing in the bottom side of the shock would flex. It was like the metal sleeve inside the bottom of the shock (where the bolt travels through) is somehow (corrosion?) adhering itself to the bracket or bolt itself. I tried prying between the bracket and the shock to no avail. All that would happen is the bushing would flex. I also placed a piece of steel tubing up against the bottom of the shock parallel to the bolt and hit it pretty good several times with a hammer and it still wouldn't move. Again, all that would happen is the bushing would flex.

I also should note that I sprayed some PB Blaster (penetrating oil) into the sleeve but that didn't do the trick. Perhaps I didn't leave it long enough?

I spent quite a bit of time trying to get this shock off the driver's side and did not get around to trying the shock on the passenger side. I guess it would be interesting to know if that one would come off but I never tried. Don't want to just replace one shock though

Any ideas on how to get this baby off?
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Old 08-23-2010, 08:05 PM   #43 (permalink)
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QUOTE (downhiller88 @ Apr 9 2010, 02:45 PM)
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i should really consider new shocks and struts soon... ill just see how long these crappy stock shocks and struts last with my h&r's...too bad i gotta spend money on other stuff

I agree, I think my stock struts are blown. Everytime I go over a quick bump or pot hole it sound like it is bottoming out. I think it is my struts bottoming out.
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Old 01-17-2012, 04:54 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Just ordered Eibach Pro-Kit springs for my '06 Sonata, 4-cyl, manual. Intend to get new shocks & struts. Thought I'd get KYB GR-2s, which are supposed to be firmer than KYB Excel-Gs, but can only find GR-2s for the rear. I can find KYB Excel-Gs for the front; or KYB GR-2 for front, 6-cylinder. I suppose I could get the factory SE struts, but they'll be expensive. Anybody got experience with these options? Advice? Thanks very much.

UPDATE: Never mind! KYB is transitioning production from GR-2s to Excel-Gs. New label, new color, same mechanical specs. http://www.kyb.com/service/color.php These are intended as OE replacements. Apparently the KYB Gas-A-Just is firmer, and the KYB AG-X is firmer and adjustable, but neither of them is (apparently) available for the Sonata.

If anyone thinks I have a better option than KYB GR-2/Excel-G, please let me know! Thanks very much.

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I had KYB GR2's with H&R's on my Elantra and man... the difference from stock was unreal. I used Tiburon KYB's though, they fit perfect. I wonder if any other struts will fit the NF?

KYB make a great product (definitely better than stock... for the XD GT at least)
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Old 01-17-2012, 05:51 PM   #46 (permalink)
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UPDATE #2 (sorry for being so confused). OK, what a mess. The front KYB GR-2/Excel-G is only available for the V6 Sonata. KYB makes a front shock for the 4-cyl but it apparently doesn't have a product line designation like GR-2, Gas-A-Just, etc. It's just a generic KYB shock. And Monroe makes a front shock that supposedly fits all engines. I want firm handling. Should I go with: (a) The KYB GR-2/Excel-G for the 6-cylinder? Will it even fit? (b) The generic KYB for the 4-cylinder? (c) The Monroe? (d) The factory SE shocks? Any advice appreciated. Here are the KYBs (including a generic KYB for 6-cyl) and the Monroe: Race Pages - Hyundai Shocks - 2006 Sonata
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I just placed an order with Tire Rack that is identical to Blue07's first post in the thread.

Here's the link I used:
Suspension Products for 2006 Hyundai Sonata GLS

Note that there are four sets of struts there. Match the part numbers in the original post in this thread, with the part numbers on that page. According to Blue07, those are the Gr-2's and should be the correct ones.

I should note that I received a call from Tire Rack this morning letting me know that the Gr-2's are "close" to OEM and they didn't recommend using them with lowering springs, and that doing so would void the warranty. There's been enough evidence here of people using that combo that I'm not too concerned about it, and outside of finding and buying OEM springs, it really appears to be the only option if you want to change out both shocks/struts and springs and the same time.

134,000 miles on my 06 Sonata. Still runs like a top, but the suspension has been an issue since about 66,000 miles. Now the spring or strut "pops" loudly when you turn the wheel more than a half turn (as if it's binding then suddenly releasing), clunks over small bumps or rough patches of road, and "creaks" over absolutely every road imperfection.

I sure hope this suspension upgrade fixes those issues. It's ruining an otherwise very nice car that still has a lot of life left in it!

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Old 02-07-2012, 05:05 PM   #48 (permalink)
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I haven't posted in years, but I just did this upgrade myself. I've used the Eibach springs with the KYB shocks. A little background, I have a 2007 V6 and have always hated the suspension as being too soft. I prefer a suspension that was much firmer for driving the mountain roads around here (anyone heard of the Dragon?) so my whole interest was improving steering, braking, and getting rid of that floating feeling I find with the stock Sonata suspension. I could care less about looks and the drop look.

Doing the rear, the hardest part was getting the old shocks off, specifically the lower shock bushing. I ended up using a Dremmel to cut the shocks and expose the bushings. After getting all the rubber off the bushings I used a torch to heat the remaining steel sleeve and free it up. It took about an hour work per bushing but I finally got them off with much brute force and ignorance. I did also use the Dremmel to make a couple of relief cuts in that final sleeve which I believed helped. There was some rust powder under the bushing once they finally came off, but nothing bad. I did a lit sanding of the stud and put some penetrating oil on it, the new shocks slipped right on like a dream. No spring compressors needed for the back springs.

On the front, the bugger was getting the old strut tower out. A few years ago I considered doing this project and was told to compress the springs before removing, well I couldn't find a way to make that work, but if you take your time and use a floor jack, then getting them out without the spring compressor is totally easy. Once you get the struts out use spring compressors and an impact wrench for best results. To get the old springs off takes a lot of compressing, and that was the worst part of the fronts (getting those compressors on and off). Once you get the top off the struts (compress a lot before trying to take it off!), putting the hardware onto the new strut and spring system is easy. You will have to use the spring compressors a little to get the hardware to bolt on, but not anywhere nearly as much as you did to get the old ones off. It all bolted right back in easy as pie.

I'll add that while I had it apart I went ahead and put Weaver gold ceramic brake pads on all four wheels.

Now I didn't do before and after measurements to check the drop because I really don't care, but it is lower for sure. I had to readjust mirrors on the first drive to compensate. I immediately noticed the change in handling. The Sonata tracks just where I point it, I don't have to compensate for the body roll anymore. I also don't notice the annoying roll when making hard turns like I use to. Braking is much better and smoother, some of that may be due to the Weaver ceramic gold pads, but I also notice the car sits a lot flatter during hard breaking instead of pitching up like it used to. So far I am happy (I just finished this yesterday), but I do notice I need an alignment now. I called my shop and he told me lowered Sonatas will not get a proper alignment. Apparently there is no camber adjustment on a Sonata only toe alignment. So that can be done, but not camber. Now I'm looking into replacing the ball joints with something that can be adjusted. Looks like the consensus is the Eibach approved solution does not actually fit the Sonata (WTF?) and there is a good chance that this one will work for an Eibach spring upgrade, but probably not an HR which is a lower drop: MEVOTECH Part # MK7452 RockAuto Parts Catalog.

I can probably change these out myself before taking it over to the alignment shop. Saves on the cost if I do labor myself and it also gives me a better knowledge of how all this stuff works together.

Anyhow, I thought I would share that, and if anyone has any advice, comments, feedback etc. it would be greatly appreciated.
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SGT Rock, Eibach makes a Front camber alignment kit Eibach Recommended Align. Kit.
Pricey, but should solve your problem.
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SGT Rock, Eibach makes a Front camber alignment kit Eibach Recommended Align. Kit.
Pricey, but should solve your problem.
So the ball joints are not needed, but these will do it?
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