terryman - Hyundai Forums : Hyundai Forum

Register Home Forums Active Topics Photo Gallery Garage Members List Calendar Auto Loans Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Auto EscrowInsurance

Hyundai-Forums.com is the premier Hyundai Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 01-09-2013, 01:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: rotherham
drives terracan
Posts: 17
ernwilson@msn.com is an unknown quantity at this point
Default terryman

can anyone tell me how to remove glow plugs from air heater on terracan inlet manifold. i suspect they might not be working. i get grey smoke and engine a bit lumpy on first start up then everythings fine when engine warm cheershttp://www.hyundai-forums.com/images/smilies/sad.gif
ernwilson@msn.com is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 01-09-2013, 02:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
senior member
 
Em-squared's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: near Portland, OR
2012 Nissan Leaf SL; 2012 Nissan X-Terra Pro-4X
Posts: 6,836
Em-squared is an unknown quantity at this point
Garage
Default

Just want to say
__________________
Fashionista.



Former driver of 2011 Elantra Limited no tech, and 2010 Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track
Em-squared is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-09-2013, 05:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
MODERATOR
 
RBURGOSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Costa Rica
Drives Terracan CRDi (2004) and Getz 3dr 1.6 sport (2008)
Posts: 1,462
RBURGOSS is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ernwilson@msn.com View Post
can anyone tell me how to remove glow plugs from air heater on terracan inlet manifold. i suspect they might not be working. i get grey smoke and engine a bit lumpy on first start up then everythings fine when engine warm cheershttp://www.hyundai-forums.com/images/smilies/sad.gif

Welcome to the forums

Those two preheating glow plugs can be removed by first removing the intercooler core and the short hose that attached to the intake manifold. Both elements can be inspected from the above intake hole and removed if necessary.

But before you go through all this hazzle, I suggest checking first thing in the morning (with a regular voltage tester) if the glow plugs are receiving any voltage upon switching to ignition on. Have in mind that this voltage signal may be very short (2 to 4 seconds only under cold weather), but enough to show at any voltage tester. If no voltage is detected, then you should test the glow plug relays for operation.

Let us know your findings.
__________________
Robert B.

Don't forget to participate and vote in the February 2013 ROTM thread at http://www.hyundai-forums.com/249-ri...2013-rotm.html
RBURGOSS is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-10-2013, 02:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: rotherham
drives terracan
Posts: 17
ernwilson@msn.com is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

thanks for lnfo i will check for voltage at glow plugs but i dont know where the relays are. my terracan is a 2004 and ive got 99400 trouble free miles on the clock but i havent got a workshop manual. cheers mate.
ernwilson@msn.com is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-11-2013, 08:48 AM   #5 (permalink)
MODERATOR
 
RBURGOSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Costa Rica
Drives Terracan CRDi (2004) and Getz 3dr 1.6 sport (2008)
Posts: 1,462
RBURGOSS is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ernwilson@msn.com View Post
thanks for lnfo i will check for voltage at glow plugs but i dont know where the relays are. my terracan is a 2004 and ive got 99400 trouble free miles on the clock but i havent got a workshop manual. cheers mate.

The glow relays should be inside the engine compartment fuse and relay box. Here is the service manual pages to test the glow relays:
Attached Files
File Type: pdf TERRACAN J3 GLOW PLUG RELAYS DTC.pdf (558.4 KB, 34 views)
__________________
Robert B.

Don't forget to participate and vote in the February 2013 ROTM thread at http://www.hyundai-forums.com/249-ri...2013-rotm.html
RBURGOSS is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-13-2013, 09:46 AM   #6 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: rotherham
drives terracan
Posts: 17
ernwilson@msn.com is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

i have checked voltage at glow plugs and found 12v on no1(e91) but none on no2(e92) ouside temp is 1degree c. would i expect both glowplugs to be working or just one.i can hear relays clicking but they dont seem to be in box in engine compartment.
ernwilson@msn.com is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-13-2013, 09:37 PM   #7 (permalink)
MODERATOR
 
RBURGOSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Costa Rica
Drives Terracan CRDi (2004) and Getz 3dr 1.6 sport (2008)
Posts: 1,462
RBURGOSS is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ernwilson@msn.com View Post
i have checked voltage at glow plugs and found 12v on no1(e91) but none on no2(e92) ouside temp is 1degree c. would i expect both glowplugs to be working or just one.i can hear relays clicking but they dont seem to be in box in engine compartment.

Hmmm... at -1C, both plugs should receive signal for at least 3 to 5 seconds.

Do the next test. Disconnect both cables attached to both glow plugs. Measure resistance between center connector of each glow plug and a grounding point in engine intake manifold. Both plugs should measure resistance. If one does not measure at all, it means its broken and should be replaced.
__________________
Robert B.

Don't forget to participate and vote in the February 2013 ROTM thread at http://www.hyundai-forums.com/249-ri...2013-rotm.html
RBURGOSS is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-14-2013, 06:39 AM   #8 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: rotherham
drives terracan
Posts: 17
ernwilson@msn.com is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

ok i wil do that but there is only 12v on one glow plug and 0v on the other. i cant do much today its snowing big style.
ernwilson@msn.com is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-14-2013, 09:33 AM   #9 (permalink)
MODERATOR
 
RBURGOSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Costa Rica
Drives Terracan CRDi (2004) and Getz 3dr 1.6 sport (2008)
Posts: 1,462
RBURGOSS is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ernwilson@msn.com View Post
ok i wil do that but there is only 12v on one glow plug and 0v on the other. i cant do much today its snowing big style.

I understand. Have you had the chance to scan car for error codes? If you do, look for error codes 0380, 0381 and 0382.

If you discover error code 1140, it means your MAFS-IAT sensor is bad (air flow and intake air temp sensor). This sensor is located right behind the air filter at the duct. If this sensor gives wrong signals, it may lead the ECM into "thinking" that there is no need to turn on the glow plugs for engine start.

Have in mind that if one or both the glow plugs are not turning on, it may be for one of the following reasons:

1) Glow plug (either or both) are bad.
2) Glow plug relays (either or both) are bad.
3) Both plugs and relays are good, but wiring between them is bad.
4) Both plugs and relays are good, but the ECM is not turning them on at startup, because it thinks they are not needed. The ECM will think the glow plugs are not needed if the ambient temp is above 15C or or thinks that the engine is already warm. False air temp readings will come from the MAFS-IAT sensor. False engine temp readings will come from the ECT sensor (ENGINE COOLANT TEMP SENSOR).
__________________
Robert B.

Don't forget to participate and vote in the February 2013 ROTM thread at http://www.hyundai-forums.com/249-ri...2013-rotm.html
RBURGOSS is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-16-2013, 07:15 AM   #10 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: rotherham
drives terracan
Posts: 17
ernwilson@msn.com is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

thanks for your help but i will leave it untill weather picks up its -6c outside. i am 72yrs young and feel the cold more. also i cant find glow relays. cheers rob.
ernwilson@msn.com is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Hyundai Forums : Hyundai Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Random Question


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:28 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0
Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.